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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 5, 2013 14:23:22 GMT -5
What is the color profile for the bulb - most of the LED's I have come across are more in the Blue Spectrum rather than natural light. That's actually a really good point. Having saltwater aquariums I'm familiar with the 10,000k/14,000k color range myself. Which are deep blue. The ones they sell at home depot are 2,000k-5,000k with lower numbers being more yellow. I bought the 5,000k bulb with the highest output. It was about $45 with several years lifetime expectancy. It's "pure white" by my own perception without any noticeable yellow or blue, and bright enough to blind you if you look directly into it. I use it in a clip on fixture that I clip to the drop ceiling above where I paint. You'll want to use it as a "spotlight" as LEDs are very directional and it won't be radiant light like an incandescent or CFL light. @ Josh ~ I'll address your question later, it's not as easy as a yes/no question.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 5, 2013 23:54:31 GMT -5
Did some freehand tonight.
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Post by calypso2ts on Oct 6, 2013 8:20:20 GMT -5
That adds a great touch to the WK - he is really coming along now with those details being picked out.
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Post by commissarkrad on Oct 6, 2013 9:24:02 GMT -5
Great freehand work, adds a lot to the model!
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Splyc
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Yeah, its kinda like that.
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Post by Splyc on Oct 6, 2013 20:46:07 GMT -5
I asked if you use washes because I was curious how you shadowed the crevices especially when using an air gun just covers everything? It looks clean for spraying paint on then using a thin wash to fill crevices, like I mean it's more separated.
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Post by calypso2ts on Oct 7, 2013 17:15:03 GMT -5
The airbrush actually acts a bit like a dryvrush in that it tends to deposit more on raised surfaces. Washes though can provide for those areas that accidentally get filled in during the process.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 7, 2013 23:38:34 GMT -5
Yeah depends if you define wash as a product or technique.
I use "washes" of watered down black to do the line work but I don't "wash" the entire surface. I use a wet palette and remove most of the water from the brush so the end result is more like staining the airbrushed basecoat.
Airbrushing creates such a smooth blended basecoat that the key to finishing the models is with washes and dry brushing. If you try to paint a thick layer, you'll end up with a visible divide between airbrushed and paintbrushes regions. Sometimes this is a good thing, like to make gems pop. If you make a mistake tho, it's nearly impossible to blend out.
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Post by Splyc on Oct 8, 2013 4:41:18 GMT -5
Ok dumb question once again I am not an experienced painter and when I was first purchasing my paints at Pair a Dice games the owner who himself has played miniature gaming including 40k for over 25 years at least. He told me not to add water to the paint that it ruins it and the effect it can bring, he told me to just purchase the already made washes. I read in White Dwarf magazines over 3 years ago that had the example painting and it said you can add water to do washes, but this is a different kind of paint now then back then yes? Also do you urself use the citadel paints or do you use a different brand?
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Post by calypso2ts on Oct 8, 2013 7:12:02 GMT -5
I use water to think my paints - I actually have a basic wet pallette that is a sponge in a tupperware with some baking paper on top of it (wax paper w/o the wax). The spong absorbs water and wets the paper so when I put paint down on it, it naturally keeps it wet and lets me dilute it as necessary.
Maybe you need to use a special thinning medium, but I have seen WD paint articles suggesting 'watered down' X color so I imagine it is okay. I do not think my models look that bad either.
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Post by grubnards on Oct 8, 2013 8:04:25 GMT -5
I always water down my paints as I find it allows you more control when applying the paint. Plus it keeps the paint from drying out on your brushes and palette. The only downside to watering down your paint is that it often means you need to paint a few more layers but it the long run it looks smoother and more even.
As for washes, I tend to do what Hyv3 said, I just add a small amount of paint to some water and then apply it in the small areas and lines where needed. Sometimes I'll wash the whole model in the middle of the painting process to help define where the shading will occur in the touch up stage.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 8, 2013 10:48:44 GMT -5
Ok dumb question once again I am not an experienced painter and when I was first purchasing my paints at Pair a Dice games the owner who himself has played miniature gaming including 40k for over 25 years at least. He told me not to add water to the paint that it ruins it and the effect it can bring, he told me to just purchase the already made washes. I read in White Dwarf magazines over 3 years ago that had the example painting and it said you can add water to do washes, but this is a different kind of paint now then back then yes? Also do you urself use the citadel paints or do you use a different brand? Yeah that's some pretty terrible advice if you ask me. Some paints off the shelf are so thick you'll actually ruin models if you don't water them down. They will fill in details etc. I'm a pretty aggressive in my pursuit of new painting techniques and methods. Most of my armies have minor visual differences because I'm trying new techniques so often. I can tell you without a doubt that the "wet palette" technique is by far the best I've discovered in 4 years and literally is based on watering paints down. I can bring my wet palette to the tournament this weekend if you'd like a demo. What it comes down to is I should really just demo the "hyv3mynd methods" as a class if more people are interested. It's very difficult to grasp some techniques even with youtube videos and I'd love to share my methods since they're relatively simple and fast, but hate it when someone tells me they tried and messed up a model.
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Post by grubnards on Oct 8, 2013 11:45:24 GMT -5
I agree wholeheartedly with the above statement. When I first started painting I did not water down my paints and I was unsatisfied with the results. Plus I went through so many brushes due to paint drying and spreading the bristles. After I started watering down my paints I went back to my earlier attempts and stripped off what I could and repainted the models. Some people are happy with just a couple of colors on their models and that is fine but if you want to practice painting and achieve tabletop and above quality then ask around for advice. One nice thing about this community is that there are a lot of players who embrace the hobby side of the game just as much, if not more, than the gaming side.
I use a variety of paints but mainly GW Citadel. As I run out of the GW paints I've been slowly switching over to Vallejo as it is much better to work with and they have a better result. My white Eldar army is almost exclusively done with Vallejo paints. I will also use cheap craft paints such as Folk Art or Americana for larger projects or working on terrain pieces. I tend to mix my colors a lot so I don't have to buy every color out there. It helps having an art background to plan out color schemes so I would highly recommend using an online color wheel when trying to plan a paint scheme or bring in some works in progress and ask for advice or pointers.
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Post by chaoscraig on Oct 8, 2013 18:52:34 GMT -5
seriously aaron... do some videos please!!!
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 9, 2013 9:46:47 GMT -5
While I do commit too much time documenting the hobby process online, videos are my cutoff point.
I have no experience or software for making and editing videos. Plus, I don't really think my stuff is good enough to warrant it. My priority is speedy production for various tournaments. If I was able to slow down and take my time, maybe. But as it stands now, I have 3 new army concepts by the time I finish one so speed painting and shortcuts will remain my priority for now.
We close down the chocolate shop between xmas and new year's. I will try my best to arrange a painting class during that week assuming no new surgical procedures for my wife. That's the best I can do.
@ ThatGuy ~ Continuing the painting conversation... There's so many different techniques out there. The hobby has changed a lot too, even if you compare the 'eavy metal pics from circa 2000 to now the difference is shocking. The best advice I can offer is find a finished product you want to emulate and learn as much as possible about it. Getting advice from 10 different people could end up being counter productive as every step is important along the way and mixing techniques doesn't always work.
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Post by hyv3mynd on Oct 11, 2013 11:37:37 GMT -5
Updated shots from this week's WIP's. DA #3 Did more work on the spiritseer And the big guy
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